Essay | "The Godot Twitter Incident"

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So, I've just fallen down a rabbit hole involving Godot, a free game development software, and I've decided to document my journey on my website. However, before I get too into this, I'll go ahead and lay out some terms. This is a long one, so grab a snack or something!

Godot is a free and open source game engine software. It's a computer program whose purpose is to expedite the creation of video games by providing a bunch of pre-made tools and features that are generalized for typical game development tasks. Basically, it does the hard stuff, so you can get to making your video game faster.

It's also a community-led, open source project. Godot is developed mostly by volunteer programmers—if you're savvy enough, you can go add features to the program yourself at Godot's Github page, the website where the code is stored and accessable to view. This source code is also under a very loose copyright license which lets you basically do whatever you want with it. If you like, you can download the source code, reupload it with as few or as many changes as you please, and re-release it to the public, fully rebranded and called something else. These are called "forks," and they're actually pretty common for open source software like this. However, game engines are extremely complex pieces of software, and maintaining a fork of one all on your own ranges anywhere from difficult to... futile. Therefore, it's much more feasible for would-be engine developrs to just go work on existing software so they can focus on the areas in which they specalize.

I'm currently working on two separate Godot projects—one secret and one unannounced—so I'm generally pretty good at using the engine, and I also keep fairly up to date with news about the engine to keep to know about upcoming features and bugfixes.

Anyway, I was doing just a few days ago when I noticed something interesting on Godot's Steam page.

A disclaimer located on the Steam page for Godot. Next to the review score is an indicator that "this product has experienced one or more periods of off-topic review activity."

That's unusual to see for a non-game application on Steam, but sure enough, it seems that Godot was review-bombed about 8 months ago (as of writing).

The all-time graph of Godot reviews shows a steadily increasing trend of positive reviews. However, late last year, an unusually large spike of reviews both positive and negative is highlighted by Steam as "off-topic."

I know from personal experience that Godot is an excellent piece of software. It's so good, that I've actually noticed something about it which I can say for no other piece of software: it feels like it cares about you. Its features aren't flashy, but practical instead. For example, when I first started using Godot, I found that the usual set of tools that I have to re-develop for each new project were, by and large, already there. I'd never before felt so seen.

All that to say, those negative reviews shouldn't be there. Let's figure out what's going on!

Negative Steam reviews. Several reviews either lack substance or are jokes. Further description of the image follows.

First impressions: a pretty typical wall of red. We've got a bunch of users with very little time in the engine complaining about "being banned." One user is complaining about how the engine is "horrible," but folds into talking about "the community" pretty quickly. Hold on to that. They claim that their usage time on steam (2 hours, enough time to do precisely jack) is not "not accurate to their actual use time," but I don't believe them. One user's negative review consists solely of the lyrics to "In The End" by Linkin Park. Extremely helpful!

But, we've gathered something. It looks like people are upset about how Godot Foundation handled something. Let's dig deeper.

More negative Steam reviews. They mention a "twitter incident," "inadequate communications staff," and "intersectional progressivism."

Doesn't take long! Pretty easy to figure out what's happening here. Godot has gone "woke," and as we know, that's no bueno, or something. Can we get more specific? It's pretty obvious that some Godot account blocked someone for being racist or whatever, but where? What are the deets? Please?

Even more negative steam reviews. Several recommend something called "Redot." One review mentions the removal of Godot's Visual Scripting feature.

Well, we're certainly not getting any objective information here, but we do have a lead. Everyone's mentioning something called "Redot." Knowing that anyone can reupload Godot as their own, and given Redot's similarity of name, we can assume that it's probably a fork. Interesting! So, this is an issue deep enough to go to all the afformentioned trouble and spin up a counter-culture game engine? What kind of features does it have?

I ran a quick Google search for "Redot," but Google didn't give me any official website. It did, however, give a GitHub link to a "Redot Engine." There's a link to the real website there, but first check this out; this is golden:

Let's play spot the difference! Spoiler, this game will be incredibly boring:

Godot description on GitHub:

A description of the Godot engine as seen on the project's GitHub page.

Redot description on GitHub:

A description of the Redot engine as seen on the project's GitHub page. It is identical to Godot's description, aside from all mentions of "Godot" being changed to "Redot."

Oh, there are no differences? No, look closer‒they did change some stuff. It's necessary logistical stuff with some vision stuff mixed in there. See?

A section of the Godot description which talks about its license information and history.

A section of the Redot description which talks about its license information and history. It is a modified version of the original, with clarifications made that Redot is a "fork of Godot" and is now "truly" community-driven. Though it remains nearly identical to the original, an additional sentence has been added which clarifies that Redot's purpose is to "improve upon Godot through a more genuinely community-driven model.

Given that most of this is unchanged, I guess the Redot maintainers like Godot just fine, except for One Specific Thing. Man, the way these guys are talking, you'd think that the Godot Community personally came to all their houses and spat in their dinners! All checks BlueSky follower count 34.8K+ of them! At once! Hey, you know what this reminds me of?

United States of America Constitution:

The opening of the United States Constitution. Two pieces of text which are absent from the Confederate Constitution are highlighted in green.

Confederate States of America Constitution:

The opening of the Confederate States Constitution. It is identical to the US Constitution, aside from all mentions of "United States" being changed to "Confederate States" or "Confederacy." "Three fifths of all other persons" has been changed to "three fifths of all slaves." This is pointed out with the caption "lol."

Oh, but the Confederates changed more than that! Look closer! It's necessary logistical stuff with some vision stuff mixed in there. See?

Article IV of the United States Constitution. It lists some of the rights that citizens have. The latter half of section 3 (2) has been marked as green and is absent from the Confederate Constitution.

Article IV of the Confederate States Constitution. It is a modified version of the original. Numerous modifications are pointed out in which the word "slave" has been inserted where it had not been before. These sections now therefore include "property" rights, transparently in regards to slaves. A new section has also been added (Section 3 (3)) which includes a clause that explicitly codifies the institution of slavery into the constitution. This section is highlighted in blue, with the caption "HMMMMMMMMMM."

Given that most of this is unchanged, I guess the Confederates liked the constitution just fine, except for One Specific Thing.

Oh, this has nothing at all to do with Redot, by the way; I just thought it was interesting. 😊 Anyway, the "copying" thing will become a recurring theme with Redot, but we'll get to that later.

First, let's see that website. No, I won't link to it; the last thing I need is birdart.online showing up in their analytics referrals. Fun fact, that's something that can happen, by the way—Website owners can see the path you took to get to their site. Keep that in mind. Not for this essay; just as general advice.

The Redot website.

Redot's website looks pretty snazzy. It is also, notably, not a direct clone of the Godot website. All seems promising, but let's see if we can find a manifesto. (Spoiler: We can!)

I won't get too into the weeds on this thing; it's mostly just rambling about "community" and "true inclusivity."

Exerpt from a blog post on the Redot website. "...This became the catalyst for our fork, driven by  ourvision of a truly inclusive community—one where developers wouldn't face exclusion or bans for their personal beliefs, one not just interested in becoming the polar opposite of Godot's politics, but opposite to the act of politicization itself..."

Yeah, forgive me for being skeptical of that dream you have, Redot Guy, but you've got people like this repping your software:

Steam review for Godot by a user named "Jimmy." Abridged: "Godot did nothing and still won. [...] And then Godot stated to do something and went full throttle with lgbtp+ support. [...] How can game engine even be lgbtp+? Who knows. Anyway, use and support Redot game engine instead. It's same but not gay." [sic]

Hey, Jimmy, you've inserted a "P" in there where it doesn't belong. What do you posit the "P" stands for? What's your opinion on queer people, Jimmy? Do you own any deadly weapons, Jimmy? Can you be trusted not to pull them out among a crowd of people you do not like? And if not, will Redot Guy be inclusive to that behavior, too?

I wonder if the Redot Guy has heard that one adage about the 11 Nazis at the table. That one which everyone thinks is German, but was actually first said by the voice actor for Marty the Zebra from Dreamworks' Madagascar franchise.

Twitter post from the user "The Voice Actor For Marty The Zebra From Dreamworks' Ma..." whose username is listed as "AndMoosebloodFromBeeMovie." "If 10 guys thinks it's ok to hang with 1 Nazi then they just became 11 Nazis. Alt right / white supremacist it's just nazis. Fuck Nazis." [sic]

Anyway, here's the important bit that describes the reason why the Redot fork was made.

The explanation for Redot's forking. "In response to a rather idiotic claim that 'game engines are woke,' Godot's social media manager responded by asking people to show off their woke games [...] To many, this post felt like a political declaration..."

Yikes! That sounds pretty bad, or something! I'm sure the content of those posts and the resulting fallout was worth the hassle of maintaining a fork of the beast of a software that is the Godot Engine! Hey, what new features have we added, anyway?

Well, Redot is... Um,

A comparison of the Redot and Godot editors. Redot's editor is red, and Godot's editor is blue.

Well it's Godot, but it's red instead of blue. I've got to admit, that is pretty funny.

I tried to find a definitive list of changes from Godot, but it turns out that finding a complete list is easier said than done. Redot Engine seems to want to fully usurp and replace Godot, so they try not to mention its predecessor on the website unless absolutely necessary. As a result, the website has no direct feature comparison, and it instead mostly just lists features that were inherited from Godot.

The following is as close to a features list as I could find:

Screenshot of Redot's website. It highlights features such as "Scene-driven design," "Cross platform," and "Open Source." The feature "Visual Scripting" is highlighted.

If you've used Godot before, only one thing in this list will immediately stand out to you as different—apparently, Redot has Visual Scripting support.

Visual scripting is a means of coding using a visual interface instead of a text editor. The point of this method of programming is to create a more accessible way for beginners and those less programmatically-inclined to make software, regardless of their skill levels. You'll find it in a bunch of common game engines like Scratch, GameMaker, Construct, and even Unreal Engine.

Godot actually used to have this feature! However, it was removed in 2022 because, as far as I can tell, it mad sucked and was implemented with no actual concern for practical usability. The developers therefore figured that Godot's custom programming language, "GDScript," was easy enough for beginners to learn anyway, and had the added benefit of being flexible enough that users wouldn't ditch it if they wanted to move on to traditional text-based programming.

Screenshot of Godot Version 3.5's Visual Scripting editor. A Reddit user's explanation for its removal is included: "It was removed because people who tried it noticed that it was basically gdscript translated to a workflow diagram, and that didn't make any sense."

So, how has Redot fixed this?

Screenshot of Redot's "ReBlocks" Visual Scripting editor. A number of functional "blocks" are laid out for the user to use and arrange to create program logic.

Well, they appear to have implemented a visual scripting system called "ReBlocks" which borrows its design from Scratch. A good decision; far more logical than trying to re-implement the programming equivalent of driving a car from the backseat by turning the steering wheel with Reacher Grabbers and training your dog to man the break and acceleration pedals by giving it vocal commands.

Unfortunately,

Screenshot of the Godot Asset Library page for "Block Coding," a free, community-made add-on for the Godot engine which looks suspiciously similar to Redot's "ReBlocks" feature.

A diagram overlaid on top of the image of ReBlocks from earlier, pointing out that "ReBlocks" and "Block Coding" share a logo and object name. Text is overlaid to clarify the image's meaning: "they just rebranded an existing addon for Godot that you can download and use on your regular Godot installation without even having to use Redot its SINGULAR defining feature is a plugin you can just downlo-"

Since we're doing car metaphors, this is the programming equivalent of deciding that you want your car to have a different paint job, so you gut your car from the inside out, leaving only the outer shell, gut a second car that was given to you by the local community center, and painstakingly re-insert the parts from the old car into the new chassis. Cool.

Hey, didn't one of those Steam users from earlier complain about Godot removing their Visual Scripting feature along with the community stuff? I wonder if that has any significance to any of this. Are these guys all coming from somewhere? Where did it start? What caused all this anyway?

Let's take it back to the very beginning. It all starts pretty typically for the website known as Twitter—someone says something stupid, and someone else makes fun of it. This is GameDevJooney, and they'll be our main character.

Jooney is browsing Twitter, as usual, when they find something utterly unhinged. Natrually, they screenshot it and repost it. This is that tweet.

A Twitter user making fun of the absurd claim that "Woke studios use prebuilt engines because they can't make their own." The original poster mocks the claim by saying "If you've ever wondered if a game is 'woke,' check if the GAME was made using a GAME ENGINE."

I think it's a pretty funny post, personally. That's right, under the new anti-woke set of norms, wasting of your time is essential. Re-build all tools from the ground up for every project. Re-invent the hammer. Build a new computer every time you turn it on. Re-create the wheel. Be a man. Try to create plastic from scratch and die doing it. Godot's community manager evidently also thought that Jooney's post was pretty funny, so they hop on the trend:

The official Godot Engine Twitter account posts the following: "Apparently game engines are woke now? Well then, we won't complain🌈. Show us your #Wokot games below 👇"

And as far as I can tell, that's really it. A bunch of people saw that post, got mad, and the rest is history. Still, there's a pretty big jump between "bad joke on the internet" and "I dedicate my life to re-hosting the Godot Engine under a different name." There's got to be more to the story. Unfortunately, Twitter no longer works on any of my devices, so I'll be a little limited in my searching, but that doesn't matter too much since it seems that the conflict has, well, "breached containment," so to speak.

A simple Google search led me to a Hacker News thread on the topic filled with a diverse crowd of people ready to give their hot takes on the issue.

Users on the Hacker News forum arguing with a user named "FightingForFreedom." FightingForFreedom mentions that "["actual devs"] have been blocked access to the actual Godot repo." In response to another user pointing out that only five contributers were blocked, Freedom writes, "That's like saying only 5 devs were shot. [...] The behavior of the Godot Foundation is so out of touch with the community and the general idea of trying to provide a product/service that is not politically aligned by its base idea, and whose audience is politically diverse and don't expect Godot to engage with polarizing acts. I've literally never seen a Discord blow up and grow as fast as this one."

Oh, finally, something concrete! It seems that some small number of hard-working members of the Godot volunteer development team, "actual devs," as this guy puts it, have been banned from contributing their work for their political views! That's Mr. FightingForFreedom here's primary concern. Luckily, the Godot GitHub repository is public, so we can go see the carnage for ourselves!

A quick aside to explain a feature of GitHub:

Each "repository" that holds the source code to a project also has a bunch of other features to help with development. One of which is the "issues" tab. The purpose of the issues tab is for developers and users alike to bring up changes that they would like to see made to the project, whether they be feature requests, bug fixes, or similar. The developers on the project can then make comments on those issues in order to discuss if and how they should be remedied or to ask the poster for more information. As you can imagine, it's a very technical place to post, and off-topic banter is generally frowned upon. Here's what that page looks like:

Screenshot of the Issues page on the Godot GitHub page. In the middle of several issues regarding bugs with the software itself, the following "issues" are highlighted: "Is this engine Wokot now ?" "I'm going broke because of going woke previously" "This engine is not gendered, please add it 😋😋😋 now"

As you can see, the issues tab has a few organizational features like tabs and different types of ways to resolve the issue, like the, uhm... hm.

Screenshot of an issue on the Godot GitHub page. The issue is simply called "spam," but a section of the image is highlighted which shows that the original title of the issue was, at one point, "Fire community manager and similar people before they make even more damage"

Did... Did Mr. FightingForFreedom mislead us by leaving out important information which might have changed our minds on the issue? No, surely not! Surely he wouldn't do that! Right??

A collage of posts from the user "FightingForFreedom" from earlier.The phrase "actual devs being blocked" is particularly copied, pasted, and stretched in order to place comedic emphasis on them."

RIGHT?!?!?!

It turns out, this is an interesting "new" type of internet trolling which Redot users really like to partake in. I'll tentatively call it "blatantlieposting." While blatantly lying is a major part of this method of trolling, there's still quite a bit more to it, as we'll come to see, so I'm not fully sold on the name yet.

Let's take a closer look at this. The Redot Defense Squad are always the ones to bring up the community management stuff and the banning thing, citing it as the primary reason for why all this has happened. Whenever they do that, the conversation suddenly turns to whether or not those guys actually got banned and why and if it was valid. The initiators of the argument then start taunting their victim, refusing to budge even when shown proof, and pretty much just repeating their original positions over and over while being vague and dancing around the actual issue (or lack thereof in this case). This has the intended effect of driving the other commenters absolutely insane, forcing them to leave and causing the initiator to win the argument by default, ultimately preventing conversation of any actual value. It's very much a "sharks are smooth" situation. It's like Senator Armstrong and his nanomachines.

A screenshot of Hacker News users "TheBigManHimself" and "BiggieCheese" arguing over an image of a Twitter user named "Jeffery Scoobydooby," who claims that the Godot Foundation has blocked them from the "godotengine" organization. Paraphrased: BigMan: "I cannot verify that this guy is a contributor to Godot. Godot did ban a few accounts: Those totally weird hecklers who made issues trolling against human rights." Cheese: "No weird hecklers and no one trolled against human rights, except for Godot trolling against free expression." BigMan: "Nobody threatened free expression. They didn't ban them from platform, they simply stopped interacting with weird and intolerant people." Cheese: "They were banned from the platform. Nobody was weird or intolerant." BigMan: "You people really making things up. Let's just say goodbyes."

BiggieCheese here kindly provides a nice example of the above behavior for us. He's keeping the conversation on one topic, refusing to budge, and blatantly lying until TheBigManHimself gives up and leaves. When the dust settles, BiggieCheese stands triumphant.

Suddenly, a side effect of blatantlieposting has made itself clear: BiggieCheese's victory now stands as a landmark for future internet tourists to find. Say that someone neutral to the conflict appears; someone with no real perception of the meaning of the word "woke" besides vague negativity. This person comes to the thread to figure out what was going on, and they see Biggie absolutely annihilating this Dumb Liberal, who was probably certainly making a mountain out of a molehill anyway.

...That's what would happen in theory, at least, but the reality of the situation is that Mr. Cheese over here just isn't very good at this. He's quite obviously trolling, and anyone who has used the internet for any amount of time should be skeptical of the claim that the Godot Foundation was able to ban its contributors from the entirety of GitHub, a company it has no sway over. Mr. FightingForFreedom seems like he's had a lot more practice, because even I had to actually go and verify if his claims were true. However, our hypothetical person from earlier almost certainly would not go to the effort I did, (because why the hxll would they), and, after reading FightingForFreedom's, post might think, "Wow, Godot banned people for their beliefs? Well, that's not good! This 'woke' thing is pretty hypocritical, huh?" When they later decide to get into gamedev, they might then opt for Redot over Godot, and thusly end up in the Redot discord with Jimmy, the guy who insists on putting a "P" in the "LGBT" acronym.

A manufactured misunderstanding; the meme of hate spreads.

Anyway, this Hacker News thread gives us a link to a post from Godot Foundation on Reddit: An official statement from Godot Foundation themselves! Another lead has been discovered!

Screenshot from a statement made by Godot Foundation. The following is highlighted (Paraphrased): "On Friday, we made a tweet that unexpectedly led to a wave of harassment directed at our staff and community. The volume of negative engagement overwhelmed our moderation efforts. While attempting to protect the community, we mistakenly blocked individuals who were not participating in the harassment.

Blah, blah, blah, yeah, yeah, whatever. Godot's response to the issue isn't really interesting, and it doesn't really tell us anything we haven't already been able to infer. Let's go check the comments!

Check out this guy:

Reddit user "ReasonableThoughtist" says (pharaphrased): "I find the response from Godot Foundation to be less conciliatory than hoped. It's concerning that some may interpret this as placing blame on the entire community, especialyl when many individuals have shared their thoughts respectfully."

Hey, this guy writes like I do! He's totally cramping my style! Sorry for that last sentence.

Anyway, Mr. Reasonable over here sounds just that, doesn't he? Godot Foundation's statement is pretty standard and corporate sounding, and it's not going to change anyone's mind. They also just admitted to accidentally blocking some unrelated people, and that probably shouldn't have happened on a brand account, and... Wait a minute, what's that doing there? "Many individuals have shared their thoughts respectfully." Their thoughts on what, Mr. Reasonable? How much they hate gay people? Hey, wait a second! We're not talking about the "respectful" ones right now, are we? Being vague? Dancing around the issue? Where have we seen this before?

Oh, God! It's blatantlieposting! I thought we left you behind in the Hacker News thread!

Reddit user "GrumpyGullet" claims that this incident has "caused a significant dent in the engines funding" and that Redot Foundation "should fire that activist before this happens again." User "MisterGodotOfficial" chimes in to make a correction: "Our funding has actually increased since the incident!"

Sure enough, this thread is absolutely rife with it! And worse yet—since this is Reddit, everyone's way better at it! It's good that the Godot Foundation employee MisterGodotOfficial is here to set the record straight where it needs be, but Mr. Reasonable and his good-at-trolling compatriots are getting away scott free!

User "GameDevJooney" replies to a repost of their "If you've ever wondered if a game is WOKE" tweet clarifiying that it was meant to be taken as satire.

Hey, it's Jooney! You know, GameDevJooney, our main character! Remember? Be careful, Jooney! Don't interact with the blatantlieposters! You'll waste hours of your life trying to explain to them a truth which they already know! Don't do it, Jooney! It's not worth it! Get out while you can!! NOOOO!!!!

User "GameDevJooney" replies to user "AsdfMovie2" to clarify that their post was satire. AsdfMovie2 apologizes to Jooney, saying "I've just seen so many people defending 'your take' I jumped to the assumption you were being serious. I should honestly know better."

Oh, I see what's happening. Jooney's sarcastic but plausibly deniable post is being taken out of context. Jooney has actually somehow taken on the role of "misinformation debunker" like Godot Foundation employee MrGodotOfficial did. I can't actually find any instances of Jooney engaging with any blatantlieposters. Nice job, Jooney!

All things considered, the people that they're correcting are generally pretty receptive, and some of them even apologize once they realize the post was satire. Notice the openness to being wrong in the face of proof? And the apologizing? That's how you differentiate the blatantlieposters and the sad saps who just so happened to all get caught up in all of this!

We've gotten well off track, it seems. Should we get back to Redot? I've found another Reddit thread, this time on r/KotakuInAction. If you've never heard of it, it's where the last few followers of the 2010s-era anti-SJW movement have taken up shop. Let's see what they think of Redot!

Reddit user "RedotEnjoyer" posts a link to the Redot homepage on the /r/KotakuInAction subreddit, with the note that "it looks really slick." User "RacismIsOverexaggerated" says "Good to know," and user "ILoveConcretePowder" says "Looks very nice, they are doing a great work (sic)."

Wow they love it!

This thread is pretty quiet because all the other anti-SJW kids grew up to be either people who say the word "woke" un-ironically or transgender, and have thus moved on in the years since. The only people left here are those that didn't get the memo, so they're all a little bumbling.

Users "UnwokeAndNormalAboutIt" and "RedotEnjoyer" converse in the comments. UANAI: "Unfortunatntely there has been drama around [Redot] and somes of the devs splitting off to create another fork." RE: "What drama? What fork?" "OtherBlaziumGuy and some others stepped away over issues with the redot team not doing things right, and started doing a forked called Blazium." RE: "Not 'doing things right' is incredibly vague.'

Ah, blatantlieposting rears it ugly head again. And in its own home base, too! Shouldn't you know how this works by now, RedotEnjoyer?

For the record, the user that Mr. Unwoke is talking about was banned by the Godot account on Twitter for about 2 days, but as of Mr. Unwoke's comment, was not banned by Godot on any platfo...

...

WAIT WHAT OTHER FORK WHAT DO YOU MEAN OTHER FORK WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THERE:S MORE?????

A description of the Blazium engine as seen on the project's GitHub page. It is identical to Godot's description, aside from all mentions of "Godot" being changed to "Blazium."

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Screenshot of the Blazium website's home page.

ALL RIGHT!! COOL!! I GUESS WE:RE DOING THIS NOW!!!

WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO OFFER, BLAZIUM??

WELL!!! CAN YOU BELIEVE IT?!

Screenshot of the Blazium software. It's interface is identical to Godot, but the logo has changed, and the primary color is now purple.

IT:S GODOT, BUT INSTEAD OF BEING RED OR BLUE, IT:S PURPLE! WOW!!!!!! FULL CENTRISM!!!!!!

On the Blazium home page, a "Games" tab is highlighted with a red circle and many arrows pointing at it.

WHAAAAAAT??? WHOAAAAAAA?!! THEY GOT GAMES??! THEY GOT GAMES IN BLAIZUM? GAMES PAGE? EVEN REDOT DIDN:T HAVE THAT! WHAT GAMES DO THEY GOT?????

The Blazium games page. It showcases three games: "Project Hangman," "Project TicTacToe," and "Project Quiz."

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Okay! Hi! I've calmed down.

Jokes aside, Blazium looks to me like a significantly more competently run project than Redot. The website has a direct list of features added over Godot, and it seems that the engine is actually specalized for networking stuff. The big feature that they added is something called "Blazium Services," which seems to be a tool to make online and multi-player games. Notably, unlike Redot, this feature was something that was actually developed from the ground up by the Blazium developers, as far as I can tell. Maybe my standards are just super low coming off of Redot, but hey! That's worth my respect!

"Manifesto" on Blazium's GitHub page. "All ideologies, political viewpoints, and self-expression is allowed in the community so long as you remain civil. We want open discussions and civil debates, without anyone having a fear of repercussions over their beliefs."

They do have a brief manifesto on the GitHub page, but hey! Pobody's nerfect, right? It's not even half as long as Redot's, and it's way more hidden.

Anyway, if I had to diagnose the situation (and that is the predicament I've put myself in), it seems that the Redot team's "not doing things right" probably had something to do with the fact that they decided to make a fork of Godot solely as an act of protest; as a big goofy "screw you" to the "activists" that "took over Godot," and had no actual plans for the engine because they're drama goblins with Performance Arts degrees instead of Computer Science ones. That's right, REDOT ITSELF is a blatantliepost! How deep does the rabbit hole go?!?!

Here's what I imagine: Blazium Guy, the only real developer in the room, saw all this happening; saw the utter chaos that hath been sown in the Redot Discord and got sick of all the pontificating about Woke instead of actual development, and just left to make his own thing.

Anyway, great news! I got Twitter working on my device for long enough to find Blazium Guy's account, and hey, it looks like I guessed right! It seems like everything happened as I expected... more or less.

Long rant on Twitter from a user named "Blazium Guy." Paraphrased: "The Community Managers of Godot just flat out hate you. The Founders and Moderators of Redot hay you, but smile at your face have you work 120hrs+ then [...] prep for kicking you from the team." "Sorry I have morals, I rather be apart of something good, then just abuncha snakes acting like they are good." (sic)

Oh, side note: That Redot Twitter account that BG links is, like, fully zonked.

A thumbnail for the "Redot" Twitter account as it currently appears: The profile picture is entirely black, the name has been changed to "V," and the account sports 58 followers.

I've recorded some of Blazium Guy's receipts, and while you should obviously take everything you read from either Blazium Guy or the Redot team with a grain of blatantlieposting, it seems like BG over here actually had a pretty good reason to leave.

Disclaimer: I think that the "RedotTime" user in the following screenshots may be the same person who started the Redot project; the user whom I have been referring to as "Redot Guy." However, I'm not certain, so I've decided to treat them like a seprate user. I'm not joining the Redot Discord server to find out.

Discord screenshot. User "RedotTime" says: "Yo at some point in the unknown future I'm probably gonna time you out and i wanna say right ahead it'll be funny." "Just letting you know because the bit is just funny in general"

Discord screenshot. User "RedotTime" says: "@Jeffany you forgot to give [Blazium Guy] access to the Moderation Discussion. Up to you whether we actually do tho. It will be funny if someone ends up timing him out."

Whoa! This RedotTime guy seems insufferable! I was honestly starting to feel bad for making fun of Redot so much, but after seeing this brief sneak peak into the 9th circle of hxll, I can say with fairly high certainty that I think they would be significantly more vitriolic to me than I to them. So it's fine probably?

Anyway, Blazium Guy might have been justified to leave, but, honestly, he doesn't particularly seem all that much more sufferable than the other guys.

Collage of Blazium Guy's "less sufferable" tweets. "I am what I am, I say waht I say, I stand by myself, [...], you may beat me and flail me alive, but I will stand by my words..." "Your absolutely fucken petty #redot [...] Get bent, you guys are fucken the worst people I've ever come across in my whole life." "Pretty Pathetic over there [...] And this is why @RedotEngine can go fuck itself." (In response to an unrelated scam e-mail): "oh so scarey, omfg. nooo. help. ahh... noo. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL #wokot can eat me [...] #Redot #1 ;) enjoy posting pictures of a fat white guy..."

In fact, at least from the screenshots BG himself provided, it seems like nobody really likes the guy!

"Jeffany" and "OtherBlaziumGuy" talk about "Blazium Guy" in the Redot Discord: J: "Blazium Guy ended up clashing heads with someone over something... really stupid. [...] it is just another example of failure to maintain professionalism." OBG: "there's no money or stake, Blazium Guy has done 90% of the work [...] he owns the team right now." J: "And that 90% will go to waste if we make everyone look at our project as just godot but on the opposite side" OBG: "I've tried to tell him, there's no way to dial it back unfortunantly."

OtherBlaziumGuy (the apparent "co-founder of Blazium," whom I named before I realized how important he was to the story) seems to imply that it was Blazium Guy who wanted the Redot engine to have a deliberately "rightist" slant to it. I'm not fully sold on that idea (I managed to read over some of OtherBlaziumGuy's Twitter posts and blatantlieposting and all that), but I've decided to take this idea at face value simply because the idea that Blazium Guy got banned from the "apolitical" community for his political beliefs is wildly funny to me.

Screenshot of an earlier part of this blog post. The line "I won't get too into the weeds on the manifesto; it's mostly just rambling about 'community' and 'true inclusivity.' and the image that follows are included. Text that mentions "true inclusivity" and "not facing exclusion or bans for personal belief" are highlighted, with the caption, "Hmmmm."

I will say though—the fact that Blazium Guy posted this image of all things (which very much paints him in a negative light even without context) is bizarre. I honestly think that Blazium Guy is probably just way too online. He's just going nuts; having all kinds of normal ones; and I think he could do with an internet detox and a walk in the park. I kind of feel for him, and I hope one day he can escape Twitter and find some sort of satisfaction outside of annoying game engine drama on the internet.

Hey, so I got like, fully off track again. This is a post about Redot. ...Right?

I'm still skeptical about the "origins" of Redot. Yeah, there's the Twitter drama and all, but who picked up the story? I know those 700 negative reviews on Steam didn't all just independently see that tweet and start reccomending Redot. Also, they all bring up the same points! Visual scripting, "uninclusive" community, etc... Who directed them there?

I've decided to arbitrarily add a new core tenant of blatantlieposting until I forget that I did that in the next paragraph: Blatantlieposters don't post blatant lies to support some kind of agenda for no reason, but rather to participate in a community. It's Posting as Part of a Shared Goal; a Common Enemy; a Target universally decided upon. A directive.

But who gave the directive?

Let's logic this out: someone with a following saw that tweet, gathred some base-level knowledge on the subject, and presented it to their followers under some sort of "look at how radical (derogatory) this community is" lens. Each of this hypothetical influencer's followers then go on to take their words of their Online Blorbo and parrot them all across the world wide web. Also, let's be real, this "influencer" is probably a YouTuber. These Redot guys, they talk like YouTube commenters. You start to be able to tell these things once you've been on the internet for long enough.

Screenshot of a YouTube comment thread on a Redot video. "Some guy forked because [Godot creator] made a joke about Godot being "woke" [...] This project is DOA." A reply reads, "1 - The fork was made before the 'Joke.' 2 - you had to beg and give personal information to be unbanned [...] 3 - It's not just the joke redot has a different philosophy to godot, it is taking old PR's godot ignores because of their corporate interests. hope that cleared things up"

I took to YouTube, but all I was immediently able to find was this. Ugh, more blatantlieposting. God, they're both doing it. Guess that's YouTube comments for you... Okay, uhm, debunking! Or whatever. Redot was forked on September 30th, which is a couple of days after all this started, and the Godot Creator was not the one to post that tweet. Bear with me; you'll see why in a bit. No, I'm not posting screenshots; I'm done, I'm so tired. Whatever. Look, there's our last lead that I'm willing to follow. Discord. Something happened there. Let's hop on.

There're two Godot Discords: an offical one, and an unoffical one called "Godot Cafe." Let's see if we can find anything interesting inside. First, I did the obvious thing and found the earliest mentions of "Redot."

Discord screenshot from 9/30/24. A user links to the Redot Engine GitHub page. "like look at this shit, its so dumb." A different user replies to the original post with a screenshot of the Redot Engine page which has not yet had its title or logo changed, and still reads "Godot Engine." "they didn't even bother," says the user.

Just some people making fun of it. In fact, that's honestly most of these early Redot mentions. The Discord folks generally don't seem to want to bring the "Twitter drama" into their spaces, which is probably reasonable. Despite that, there's still discussion from the Redot-curious.

Whoa, check out this guy!

"ExRedot" posts on the Godot Discord. He links a Twitter post from "OtherBlaziumGuy" which reads "ExRedot has been nothing short of disingenuous and antagonistic since he joined the server." ExRedot says, "I only tried to help get rid of bad actors as a mod over there..."

ExRedot further explains themselves: "I was an 'engine dev/senior moderator' at Redot. [...] I spent [all] of my time deleting spam from the github [...] long and short of it... Blazium Guy was [...] rebranding Godot to Redot and I asked him why it was taking so long... he was much nastier to me in the staff chat..."

ExRedot is accepted by the Godot Discord community members. One user says, "chill, its OK, they don't want yo hang out with you and you don't want to hang out with them so just don't hang out." Another says, "Oh boy that's so funny. It seemed like you were just trying to get help, and then the other guy [...] belittled you?" ExRedot posts a smiley face emoji: "Godot community never let me down 🙂"

We've found a war story form an ex-Redot developer! I can't belive that Redot has existed for a mere eight days, and it's already generating ActiBlizzard-style callout posts from former employees about the hostile workplace environment cultivated by its leaders! I'm sure that's got to count for some record, somewhere! Oh, also, this is the second instance of someone being kicked out of the Redot community because the owners didn't like them.

The "true inclusivity" image from a couple images ago, but modified to include a bulge behind the phrase "truly inclusive" in the Redot mission statement.

All right, enough mucking around. I found this in the Discord, and it has confirmed many of my suspicions:

Post in the Godot Discord server. "wait did that waste of human condition make a video on the engine drama?" "Oh many did. Mr. EatRocks was the first. Took stuff out of context, did no research, didn't seem to acknowledge at all that OtherBlaziumGuy donated very little over the years [...] and was a POS on both Discords. The user includes a screenshot of a GitHub issue entitled "Issues about the community manager. Who has the ability get rid of that woke feminazi piece of meat."

This Discord user mentions a "Mr. EatRocks." I have, of course, changed this person's name to "Mr. EatRocks" for the sake of privacy, but this guy presents an interesting issue that I should probaly address. Mr. EatRocks has an incredibly large YouTube following and, statistically, you have heard of this guy. The reason that I continue to censor his name is, therefore, not neccecarily to protect his privacy (Frankly, this guy seems to revel in internet drama), but instead to protect my own. In case you haven't noticed, members of Mr. Rocks' fanbase like to, er, "protest" against individual internet users. This is, of course, not harassment! Harassment doesn't exist:

Quote from a "Mr. EatRocks" video. "[Godot Foundation] effectively tried to gaslight the entire community into thinking that they were being harassed after they were being disagreed with." "Every single time that you hear the word 'harassment,' especially used by these kinds of people, I want you to immediately assume that it's not true.

Dxmn, dude, okay.

"These are the kinds of people that want to change male and female to 'body type 1 and 2' Absolutely insane, mentally ill freaks that have infested social media [...] are ruining every facet of everything that they touch, just like they have ruined their own lives."

To be completely honest, watching this guy's videos makes me feel like I'm out of my depth; like I am staring down the barrel of a gun. I'm watching a bear and its army of spiders on their nightly patrol, all too aware that one wrong step, and I could be its next target. It makes me wonder what the point of writing this even is anymore; if you've read this far, you almost certainly "agree" with me already, so why bother?

For now, I'm going to stay in my lane. This is a post about the Godot Twitter Incident.

"So there's a community manager that works for this game engine, and they've decided to use this game engine as a vehicle for them to complain and get mad about other people not agreeing with their politics." "If you let somebody like this take over your social media, they're going to [...] push their agendas [and] alienate your customers."

In his video(s) about the Godot Twitter Incident, Mr. EatRocks first gives a brief rundown of the drama. He pokes around some of the big(ger)-name Twitter accounts which were first blocked by the Godot account after replying cringe to the "Wokot" post. I'll spare you the details since he doesn't really go over anything that I didn't on this subject. Notably, one of the accounts whose tweets he looks at is OtherBlaziumGuy, who apparently was a "platinum donor" for Godot (until he got blocked). Rocks then moves on to what seems to be his true major concern of video: bashing the specific community manager who made the original "Wokot" post on the Godot account, whose personal account and photo he has somehow found. Rocks refers to them mostly as "community manager" or "CM," so I'll just call them "MC," to be contrarian.

Rocks focuses his ire on MC and a couple other Godot-adjacent moderators from the Discord servers, whom he sees primarily as representatives of a wider group of "insanely toxic" people that he recons "have no friends." He also repeatedly calls MC an "activist," which he and his spiders have apparently decided is some sort of slur. Ah yes, vital activism happening on Twitter dot com; blocking rude Twitter users from viewing the tweets from a free game engine's PR account. This explains the fixation some of those Steam reviwers had earlier with a seemingly single "activist community manager," at least. As for MC themselves, they seem to have taken Rocks' video in stride. I guess you have to have a thick skin if your job is social media.

Oh, but, you know what Mr. EatRocks didn't mention? That's right. Redot.

You know what that means that I have to do?

Screenshot of the YouTube search page. "redot engine" has been inputted into the search bar.

please, god, please, rescue me from this fresh hell of mine own creation. save me from the suffring brought to me by this accursed curisoity, bestowed upon me neither by God nor the Devil, but by some secret third Christian entity, who wishes to exaust me by forcing me to force myself to watch bad YouTube videos on the internet

Upon searching YouTube for "Redot Engine" and filtering search results by most viewed, I've found three major videos which talk about the situation. Actually, I'm gonna talk about a fourth one, too, because it's the Official Redot explanation. Actually, I'm gonna talk about that one first, just to get it out of the way. Here's a screenshot from it.

YouTube video from the official Redot channel entitled "Redot: Why We Forked Godot." The image highlights a screenshot of a video which shows stock footage of a woman runing through a field with the text "How it feels when no one cares about your politics."

Pretty much the whole video is like this, and it's basically just a reading of the manifesto from earlier with some James Sommerton-style word changes. Oh, also, "Redot" is pronounced "Ree-daught." I guess that information would have been more helpful 5500 words ago...

Anyway, that video was actually released pretty recently, so I don't actually care about it. I'm primarily interested in how Redot was popularized, so I'll talk about the other three videos now.

These videos were made by who I'm going to call YouTube Pundits 1-3, because I'm really tired of trying to come up with funny names for these guys only for them to vanish from the story. Remember Jooney? Good times. I bet Jooney is living their best life right now; not thinking about Redot, Mr. EatRocks, Other Blazium Guy; not writing any blog posts...

Now, these guys seem to be in the same circle as Mr. Rocks. I've seen Rocks watching a video from Pundit 1, but I don't know about the other guys. They all still use the same "activist" terminology from what I've seen, and they all see virtue in being "apolitical" despite the fact that they are all quite literally political pundits. I'm just going to sort of lump all these guys together as part of the same Internet Guy Group. You know how it is.

Speaking of Pundit 1, their video pretty much just covers the launch of the Redot project. 1 opens their video with the following: "[An unrelated Twitter user] made a challenge to the community. They basically said, 'If you don't like Godot Engine, [...] why don't you do better?'" And thus, Redot Engine was born.

Pundit 1 admits that they weren't able to get a screenshot of this post, but I won't cry blatantlieposting about it—I actually used to follow said unrelated Twitter user (back when I used that site), and that personally sounds to me like something they would probably say. What's funny is that it looks like they ultimately got the last laugh, since Redot seems to suck bad. They're so cool.

After that, 1 covers some of the drama happening over on the Redot discord and GitHub page, and then spends the rest of the video making fun of MC's tweets. MC is a pretty prototypical "blue hair and pronouns" type, so I guess that Pundit 1 figures that the Rocks-type audience they've attracted mostly only cares about owning the cringe libs, and is thus eager to get to the Good Stuff as soon as possible.

Pundit 1 pronounces "Redot" incorrectly, by the way.

Pundit 2's video is very short. They pretty much just talk about the Extremists raiding the Redot Discord server, who are Disrupting The Peace and trying to prevent the formation of the highly moral Apolitical Game Engine, then they proceed to talk a whole lot about politics. The screenshots of other people's Twitter posts are interpsersed with gameplay of an FPS I don't recognize. Then, it's over. Pundit 1's video was way more engaging.

Pundit 2 also pronounces "Redot" incorrectly.

Twitter post from Redot Engine. The logo is noticably different, being a stylized blue "R" instead of a red robot character. "We just wnated to give a short update on situation. 1. Our Discord HAD to pause joins temporarility because we had a massive influx of bad actors [...] 2. Devs are working & vetting voulenteers"

Whoa, check out that old Redot logo! I acutally like this one a lot better than the one they ended up going with, but I guess that being blue is more Wokot's thing. *Laugh track*

Pundit 3's video seems to be the most well produced, but I think they're kind of boring. I don't agree with any of these guys, but I thought that Rocks and the other two were at least, like, entertaining. Hxll, Rocks even made me laugh once, believe it or not, but Pundit 3 is about as entertaining as listening to your uncle rant about being spied on by Google as if it were a conspiracy theroy and not common knowledge. Wait, was that just me?

I need you to understand just how boring this guy is. For the sake of comedy, I've been playing this hapless "neutral" character for a lot of this essay—that's why I've been "handing it" to so many of these blatherskites—but Pundit 3 is such a dry, boring, uncreative wannabe of a Mr. EatRocks-type talking head that I geuninely get secondhand embarassment from watching this guy play at being Tucker Carlson with all the aptitude of a chicken attempting to fly. It'd be like if your afformentioned uncle started a YouTube channel for his inane "AI is bad but only for HAL 9000 reasons" rants and somehow inadvertantly got very popular exclusively because, as it turns out, there is just a whole subcommunity of people that REALLY LIKE HAL 9000 to the point that they'll become lifelong fans of him by excluseive virtue of "he mentioned the robot uprising once." Oh, still just me?

Anyway 3 opens the video by advertising their merchandise, and then goes and reads someone else's article explaining the situation for half the video. I actually got bored and scrolled down into the comments partway through the video. Check these out.

Pundit 3's YouTube comment section. "the fork will no longer be around in 12 months. is anione actuali using it?" "t's not the Walkt Disney Company anymore' It's the Woke Disney Company, and the CEO is Big Jack Horner." "Skip to 6:00 where he starts talking about the subject. First 6 minutes is fluff."

I like the one guy who actually seems to be a fan, but still provides a timecode to "skip the fluff."

More comments. "Redot Engine emblem has the same energy as the Autobot emblem." "I loved the old logo 😢😢😢 this one ain't hitting the same."

TOO true, dude. FINALLY, someone around here with some SENSE.

I went back up and just started skipping around. Pundit 3 actually shows the Hacker News thread from earlier. That's right, he doesn't read it, he just shows it, and now there are magically 50 more comments then there were before. Hey! Continuity! I guess we know where all those blatantlieposters came from! It also makes sense that they were all worthless at their craft, cause the only type of person who would watch Pundit 3 over Mr. EatRocks is someone who would find value in the words of an actual wooden chair (non-rocking).

Pundit 3 stops to question the pronunciation of "Redot" because they can't figure it out. They cycle through a couple of pronunciations before settling on an incorrect one.

So, I'm sure there are more of these guys. You get the point—The talking points made by the blatantlieposters that scatter the internet all reflect the same opinions of the sources from whence they came (Mr. EatRocks and his adjacent pundit-types). Ultimately, this one, odd occurance that fascinated me so was just another event to be milked for Internet Content in a YouTube circle which I do not follow. Rocks hasn't even had the decency to come back to check on Redot. He's fully over the situation, and he's since moved on to more important issues like covering different Gaming Drama and liveblogging Donald Trump's weekly scheduled colonoscopies.

It's a little anticlimactic, but, hey, isn't it fun to play detective and work through this sort of thing in reverse?

There's a lot more that I found that I've thought about mentioning. For example, I've noticed a slight obsession with Godot's lack of visual scripting that I think may have originated from some guy on twitter or something, but in case my obvious fatigue hasn't made it clear, I would like to move on, to something, anything else. It's not that I couldn't keep going! Even now, peering at the Redot blog reveals some fascinating recent happenings, including a permanant shutdown of the forum and a status update which has to assert multiple times that they are "not getting rid of Redot" despite the fact that the engine has not recieved an update since December. What on earth could be happening in that discord??

Despite my neverending curiosity, I'm ultimately satisfied with the ~7,500 words I've written. As far as I'm concerend, that's already far more than Redot deserves.

I'll wrap things up with offering a piece of advice, which I think you may find will make using the internet just a little bit more bearable:

Every single time that you see something on the internet that looks sketchy, especially when it's said by someone who is clearly looking for an argument, I want you to immediently go into the field for yourself and check if it's actually true. Form your opinions from facts you confirm at the scene with your own eyes. The guy who won that internet argument epic-style doesn't neccecarily know more than the guy he pwned; he's just betterer at saying the words really good so that people listen to him the most betterest.

W-Wait a minute.

Mr. EatRocks quote. Bracketed words are highlighted in green: "Every single tiem that you [hear the word harassment], especially [used] by [these kinds of poeple,] I want you to immediately [assume that] it's [not] true."

Wait. Wait, no.

Quote from an apparent 4 hour long YouTube video entitled "The Godot Twitter Incident" by me, birdart on the internet. Bracketed words are highlighted in red: "Every single time that you [see something on the internet that looks sketchy], especially [when it's said] by [someone who is clearly looking for an argument], I want you to immediently [go into the field for your self and check if] it's [actually] true."

WAIT NO NO NO NO NONONONONONONONONONONONONONO I DIDN'T MEAN—

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